Karen Zerby
Answers from our Lover concerning
the Loving Jesus revelation
By Maria
Maria #525 CM 3283 12/99
For age 16 and up
Why broadcast our sex doctrines?
1. Q: Why are we so open about broadcasting our sex doctrines, especially when the whole message rarely gets out? The media picks up on the sensational side of our sexual beliefs and freedoms, but fails to include the godly standpoint that we're coming from. Shouldn't we try to keep the sexual side of our beliefs, including the Loving Jesus revelation, a little quieter and perhaps even downplay them?
(Note: The following message from Dad was given three years ago, some months after the Loving Jesus revelation was published.)
2. (Dad speaking:) We aren't the ones who are broadcasting our sexual beliefs, although I'm not ashamed to talk about them and tell it like it is. I'm not ashamed of the beautiful, wonderful, precious gift which God has given to us—that of being able to freely enjoy His creation, without fear‚ condemnation, guilt or sin. So I'm not ashamed to talk about it to others. It's not us, and in most cases has never been the Family that has initiated the broadcasting of our sexual beliefs; it's always the media that wants to broadcast them. They're the ones who grab the ball and run with it and start broadcasting and asking for interviews and answers.
3. Sex has never been our major message to the world. Yes, we believe in it, we practice it, and we thank God for His precious gift to us‚ which when practiced as God ordained, designed and intended, is a pure function and a beautiful wonder of God's creation. There's nothing evil or wrong with sex, nudity, or the human body. But even though we believe that and we practice that, it's still not our main message to the world. It plays a very small part in our lives in comparison to our main job, which is witnessing the Lord's love to the lost. That's always been our main job, our main message, and God has made it very clear that He has called and chosen the Family to spread the Gospel and the good news of salvation.
4. In addition to the blessing of serving Him and spreading His message, He's given us a beautiful freedom in having loving sexual relations one with another, which I'm sure the Family agrees has been a great blessing in their lives and has made it easier to do His job. Everyone needs sex. Everyone loves good, godly sex, and when practiced the way He intended it to be practiced, it bears beautiful fruit in our lives.
5. But we're not the ones who are initiating the broadcasting of our sexual beliefs! We're not the ones who are knocking on the doors of the newspapers and TV stations to get them to publish our sexual beliefs. They're the ones who come and ask us for it! Of course, if they're going to ask us and they want to know the answers, then it's our responsibility to give them the answers and to stand up for the truth. I'm thankful for and proud of God's messages. I'm thankful for and proud of good‚ godly sex, and I'm not ashamed to tell the world when they ask us.
6. Some news reporters have already gotten ahold of the Loving Jesus revelation, and news of this revelation will surface in the media. This is nothing to be afraid of. We have nothing to be ashamed of nor any reason to hide the wonderful blessing and privilege that the Lord has given us of being able to love Him in this way.
7. You may be faced with some questions about this new doctrine and practice, and Mama and Peter have taken great care to provide you with the answers you may need. With the Lord's help, and a great deal of prayer and counsel, they and their staff members have compiled the Loving Jesus Statement to help you answer the public's questions and present this revelation in a way that will make it as easy as possible for outsiders to relate to.
8. We're not expecting the general public or the church Christians to be as thrilled about this revelation as we are‚ but nonetheless, we have to be prepared to give an answer and explain it to them. We're not necessarily doing it to broadcast our sexual beliefs, but when asked, we want to give them the truth and tell them the way it is, because the news media has enough trouble keeping things straight and publishing the truth. We want to be sure that we give them the true picture.
9. As far as the public accepting it‚ well‚ this revelation was given for the Family, not for the general public. Loving Jesus was meant as a way for adult Family members to have a closer, more intimate relationship with the Lord. It may also prove to be a blessing and benefit to some people outside the Family, but that's not the main reason we published it‚ nor why the Loving Jesus Statement was compiled. We made this Statement available to answer questions about the Loving Jesus revelation, not to preach it to the world. (End of message from Dad.)
10. (Mama:) As Dad says above, the Loving Jesus revelation was not given for the public. It's a special gift and doctrine that the Lord has given to us in the Family. And while some others in the world may hear about it and benefit from it, that will probably be more the exception than the rule. Of course‚ that's not to say that you can't share it with interested friends and contacts. Some of those we've been following up on in South America practice Loving Jesus and even preach it to their friends! And you may need to share at least the concept with some of your friends as well, to prepare them for possible controversy and media smears. (See ML #3243:80-123, GN 845.)
11. I'd like to also remind you that nearly every religious group holds to some belief or practice that appears strange to those outside the group—to the world at large. Some groups have practices that are very far out, which people would consider much stranger than ours. Most people in the world today realize that if you're part of a religious group, you're going to hold certain beliefs or practices that they won't understand or necessarily agree with.
12. Although the Loving Jesus revelation has come up in the media from time to time, the Lord has protected us from major media splashes or persecution related to this message, which many Family members were concerned would result once this series had been published. As we've continued to be open and "give an answer to them that ask of us" when questioned about these things, the Lord has done His part and blessed and protected us. Praise the Lord!
Will Loving Jesus bring on
persecution?
13. Q: I have battles with the fact that in recent years more sexy and sexual things have been printed in our Family pubs. The Enemy attacks me with fears of the Loving Jesus revelation and the increased sexiness in our religion causing persecution, or that we're giving our enemies "ammunition" to use against us. Doesn't it tarnish our reputation somewhat, or even the Lord's, in the eyes of the world and how they view us as a Christian group?
14. (Jesus speaking: ) There is no need to fear persecution. Persecution is only allowed by My hand when I know it will bear fruit and when it is the time for it. Don't you think that I am able to protect My children from persecution? Does puny man have any power against Me? I tell you, they have no power! As I told the Scribes and Pharisees of My day, they could do nothing unless My Father in Heaven allows it. I can send legions of angels to each of My children to protect them from the puny attempts of man to hurt them.
15. But have I not said that all that will live godly shall suffer persecution? Persecution comes when it is the time appointed. Doubt not My Words‚ only believe and trust in Me. I will open doors that no man can close. I will make a way in the wilderness. I will raise up kings and rulers to protect and keep you. I will continually deliver you from the hand of the "fowler." I will continue to make you My spiritual nation that will shine as a beacon from the heights of the Earth.
16. As always, throughout time I use My Word to separate the sheep from the goats, the weak from the strong. Only My strongest children can go where I am going at this time, to the front lines of the battle, to face the Devil head on in the days to come. As always‚ this is a Gideon's band of My children—those who are willing to be of no reputation‚ who are willing to be mocked and ridiculed by the secular world of their time.
17. So be not fearful‚ My children; only follow Me and trust Me. I am able to protect you and to keep you and lead you into all righteousness and truth. As I told the self–righteous Scribes and Pharisees of My day, "Except these praise and acknowledge Me, the very rocks would cry out!" So it is with My prophets and those who give My Words to My children; they're merely instruments in My hand to deliver My Word. And if they were to withhold My Word, then I would raise up others to send My Word forth to My children.
18. Those who look to the queen and king as the originators or the distributors of these Words are looking in the flesh and not in the spirit. These are not their thoughts or words; they're My thoughts and My Words. Your king and queen understand well your situations and they love you very much, and therefore they have the faith to give you the Words that I give to them. They know that My Words will be your strength and protection and guiding light in the times to come.
19. Worry not about the academics and the theologians‚ and those who are looking so diligently to see how the Family is changing and blending into the mainstream of society. I tell you that the Family will never blend into the world of this day, for the world is evil and polluted, full of greed and avarice and licentiousness. I have called My children to come out from among them and be separate, and they have obeyed and will continue to obey Me until the End. I have called you to please Me, not to please man.
20. I will take the responsibility for My reputation and for the way I've asked My children to operate. So fear not man, but rather fear Me. Walk close to Me and I will not allow these doubts and lies of the Enemy to plague you and worry you and weaken you through fear. I am your mighty King and Protector, your Lover, your Husband, your Lord. I will continue to guard you as the apple of My eye. So let Me be your guide, let Me determine your doctrines, your theology, your philosophy, the tenets of your faith.
21. Has any harm come to you since the publishing of the Loving Jesus revelation? Have the authorities raided you and taken your children? Have you been maligned or persecuted or abused? I tell you nay, for I have given you favor in the sight of many kings and nations. They're fascinated by your faith and they see your good works. They see My Spirit pouring from you as they've never seen My Spirit before‚ and they're enthralled and desirous to have the peace, the truth, and the freedom that My children have.
22. So continue to go forth in faith and worry not about the publishing of these sexy words, these intimacies with Me. Do you think that men and women of the world don't think those thoughts, that they don't get excited by the thought of penises and pussies and fucking? I tell you they do, and many think these sexy thoughts in their fantasies and use these sexy words with each other. But simply because these words aren't supposedly "religious," because they're being used with Me, your Lover and Husband, are they wrong and evil? Those of the world know Me not and have been deceived and led astray by the Devil into thinking and believing that sex is evil and dirty, and that these parts of their bodies are evil and dirty and shouldn't be talked about; that the words "fuck" and "fucking" are dirty words.
23. But as I've told you, they are the ones who are dirty and unclean. The act of fucking is of Me, for it is the true uniting of two souls in love—and how much more if they're fucking and uniting with Me, their Creator, their ultimate Lover, the One Who created them to love Me. How could I not bless and cherish the ones with the humility and the faith to throw off the traditions and the ungodliness and the self-righteousness of man, the deception and the lies of the Devil? I tell you that I have blessed them, and I will continue to bless them. (End of message from Jesus.)
24. (Mama:) What a powerful and sobering message! Thank You, Jesus‚ for such a clear explanation about why You ask us to do such radical things, why You have to keep us so far apart from the System, and why we don't have to worry or fear for our precious families and children in believing and accepting the Loving Jesus revelation.
25. The Lord has certainly kept His end of the deal, and has cared for us and kept us free from persecution resulting from the Loving Jesus revelation during the four years since it was published. Even though some people were very critical of the Loving Jesus revelation in the beginning, due to their fears that it would bring about persecution and a new wave of negative media coverage‚ the Lord has once again protected and kept us, and fulfilled His promises to care for His Own!
26. Now we should all check our hearts and determine whether or not we're obeying the Lord's call to be separate from the System in every way—one of which is by being His intimate Bride and not letting our actions be dictated by the Enemy's lies and fears. He's promised to protect us and keep us from persecution as long as it's His will, and as long as we're obedient. Quite a few years ago the Lord promised the Family a time of peace and freedom from persecution, which He has given us. More recently, in the "Shakeup" GNs, He talked about persecution and said that now the responsibility is on us‚ as a Family, to change our ways, to cleanse the impurities and System influences from our midst‚ and to become the wholehearted disciples He's asking us to be, if we want to have His protection from persecution. So whether or not we are blessed with continued freedom from persecution depends on how we, as a Family, respond to the Shakeup.
27. That doesn't mean that persecution will never come, even if the Family does succeed in being cleansed and strengthened through the Shakeup. We know that persecution will come at some point, as He's prepared us for it throughout the Bible. But if we're obeying the Lord and staying close to Him, we can rest assured that it will be on His perfect timetable and that He will see us through it and use us as a mighty testimony and witness, praise the Lord!
Are you missing the emotional feelings when loving Jesus?
28. Q: In the Letter "What a Husband and Lover," where the Lord talks about those who love Him as His bride, He says‚ "We stay on a permanent 'high,' always looking forward to and anticipating and daydreaming about the next time we can be together" (ML #3098:29). That sounds wonderful, but I just don't feel that way about my relationship with the Lord. As much as I love Him‚ I don't have those physical, highly emotional feelings. Is something wrong? Why don't I feel that way?
29. (Jesus speaking:) If you don't experience big emotional feelings when you're talking to Me, loving Me intimately‚ or praising Me from your heart, don't worry about it. Don't think that there's something wrong. I understand your desire to please Me and to be obedient to My Words and to fulfill My needs. I understand that you may not experience the same emotional feelings and highs or thrills or ecstasies that you may have heard others testify of, but it doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you. If you're obeying by faith and whispering your words of love to Me from your heart, it means that everything's right, and that you're doing the right things. All you have to do, and all I want and need, is for you to tell Me that you love Me in whatever way you can‚ with whatever words you choose, and in whatever way you choose to express it.
30. I know that you love Me, and I see your love and I feel your love when you tell Me so. Whether you feel anything emotionally or not does not change the way I view and appreciate your love. So don't let it discourage, hinder, or stop you. The Enemy would like to whisper his doubts and discouragement and lies to your heart, and persuade you that you must be on the wrong track or not doing the right thing. He'll try to convince you that you must not be yielded enough, or you must not have enough love. Perhaps he even tries to tell you that you're not revolutionary enough, that you're an old bottle, because you don't experience any physical feelings or emotional thrills or highs.
31. He fights your obedience in saying words of love and praise to Me. He fights the connection that we will make in the spirit during your times of expressing your love to Me. He fights it and he tries to discourage you and build up a wall of discouragement and defeat by telling you that it must not be working because you don't feel anything.
32. But whatever your words are and no matter how you may feel physically, emotionally or spiritually, I tell you that there is great power in your words of love to Me. It doesn't matter if they're few words or many words, if they're eloquent, articulate words, or if they're simple, small words. It's just like your prayers; they only need to come from your heart. I see and I understand, and in return I reward and bless you in the spirit.
33. Many of My blessings and rewards of the spirit you may not feel emotionally. You may not get a great spiritual high or undergo a wonderful experience that you can relate to others in glowing terms. Many of My rewards and blessings of the spirit are those which are unseen by the human eye; they are those of peace within your heart and soul and spirit; they are the reward and gift of continued faith, the rewards of obedience and the blessings of continued love in your life.
34. So look not for the outward show and the outward rewards and blessings, and worry not about the showy manifestations of an emotional high. There may be some who will experience emotional feelings, things that they can tangibly feel and testify of, but not all will feel that way, and even the people who do experience emotional feelings do not always experience them. They may experience them occasionally and some may only experience them rarely‚ but the feelings and the experience are not the most important matters. What is important to Me is that you continue to tell Me you love Me.
35. Just as with anyone you love, any love relationship, you continue to reassure them that you love them by the things you say‚ and your words need not be great and flowery or profound. You need not feel that you must be eloquent; they only need to be words from your heart. These words are enough for Me. They're enough to keep our love warm‚ glowing and burning.
36. As far as whether you receive more blessing for saying the more erotic words, that depends on your heart. If you hold back from saying them out of pride‚ then you do not receive as much of the blessing‚ because you are holding back and giving only a little. But for some people, those words are not naturally exciting, and so when they want to speak to Me with the words of deepest expression and emotion, they choose the words that turn them on and excite them. And that means the world to Me.
37. I look on the heart. If people are holding back and are not willing to say words of love and passion to Me because of their pride, then they cannot be fully blessed. But if they say to Me words that excite love and passion within them‚ though it may seem mild to others‚ they are as blessed as those who say the more erotic words, because in their heart they are very erotic and passionate.
38. I see the heart and I judge by the heart. So the difference between the words that you say does not make much difference to Me—I only seek that you love Me to the limit. For different people, that means different things.
39. I am your spiritual Lover Who is always with you. I am always by your side, connected to you, knowing what you're doing, what you're feeling, what you're thinking, and what you need. As your Lover, I desire to supply your needs, and I desire for you to supply Mine. The longer we live and love together as lovers, the more we become one. As lovers grow to know each other in an ever deeper way‚ the more they're together and the more they love, the more they share and sacrifice and give to one another, the more reassured they become of the other's love, until finally it doesn't take much to keep their love fire burning.
40. It just takes a few little words and expressions of love, for they have a spiritual link with each other—that knowing, that connection—and it just takes a loving look, a loving touch, a loving word, and their love fires glow and their bond remains strong. So it is between you and Me. We have been lovers of old. We are strong lovers, we are steady lovers, we are deep lovers. (End of message from Jesus.)
41. (Mama:) The next message was given to a young woman who wrote me with her concerns of not feeling closer or more in love with Jesus, even though she had begun loving Him intimately.
42. (Jesus speaking:) You may not think that you're very close to Me, but I say that you're closer than ever, for you've obeyed My Words and followed blindly by faith. Even without the feelings and emotional highs, you've fought on and have desired to remain close to Me. I'm well pleased in what you've given Me, for it has been with a whole heart.
43. Don't worry because you don't experience these so-called "emotional highs" in the spirit. You may be surprised to know that there aren't many who do experience such feelings. Yes, there have been testimonies of people who have caught a glimpse of the Heavenly realm or have felt wonderful things, but these are the rarer cases.
44. There are many who have not had the emotional thrills to go along with their relationship with Me. This doesn't mean that I love them any less, or favor the ones who have special experiences any more. I work in each one's life differently. So don't feel bad if you haven't had a great rush or "in love" feelings for Me that you can feel in the physical. Just the fact that you read My Words and love My Words and follow them shows that you believe in Me and that you do love Me.
45. Don't condemn yourself because you feel that you don't measure up to a certain spirituality, for I have no such standard. I don't have a gauge that I'm measuring you by. Just run free, My child, and enjoy the fresh wind as it blows on your face and refreshes you. Burn free and love Me as you have. Enjoy your times with Me.
46. You can take encouragement from Mama, who also doesn't have a lot of thrills or feelings to go along with her relationship with Me. Yet she loves Me wonderfully with all her heart, and I love her and ravish her in the spirit. You see‚ you have to take much of it by faith, for this is how I've made it‚ as a test. But that's why I will reward you so much more when you finally come over to the other realm, when you stand before Me in the next life. Then you'll see and feel and know Me in ways that you could never know Me on this Earth.
47. This life is a test. This time here is one of walking by faith and not by sight‚ just holding on to My promises and believing that what I say in My Word is true‚ even if you don't necessarily have the proof to back it up. So take it as a challenge and keep holding on, knowing by faith that you're loving Me and I'm loving you. (End of message from Jesus)
48. (Mama: ) I hope that those messages reassure those of you who don't feel any physical thrills or highs when loving Jesus. It doesn't make any difference to the Lord; He still craves your love! Most of us fall into that category of loving Jesus by faith, doing it out of obedience and love‚ just because He's asked it of us, without necessarily feeling great rushes of excitement or supernatural sensations. But we can still know that we're receiving the blessings the Lord has promised and that we're making Him just as happy. (See also FJWL 1:232.)
Is Jesus really there when I make love to Him in the spirit?
49. Q: When I spend time loving Jesus, is He really there or is it just a fantasy, a nice thought, something that He appreciates because we're giving Him love and being willing to love Him in this way? Or is He really there making love to me as well, interacting with me, only I can't feel it, see Him, or touch Him? Some people say that they feel His presence, but is He really there or not?
50. (Jesus speaking:) I'm right there with you, My precious bride. Even though you can't see Me in the flesh or feel My flesh, I'm really, really with you. My Spirit, My spirit body, My love, is right beside you when we lie together in our bed of love. I'm lying with you, loving you, making love with you. I'm really with you in the spirit. You just can't see Me or feel Me, but I'm there.
51. I'm in the room with you, filling you‚ surrounding you, enveloping you in these beautiful times of lovemaking. I wouldn't miss being with you for anything, because I love you so much. You're My bride, My lover, and when you make love to Me in the spirit, I'm making love with you. When you think of Me and long to kiss Me, you're kissing My lips and I kiss you in return. When you desire to stroke My face and feel Me close to you, I am there close to you. I feel your caresses. My Spirit, My heart and My spirit body are right there in our bed of love, doing all the things that you're thinking of and desiring and wishing for.
52. My seeds become a part of your spirit; they truly become a part of you and live inside you and give you the blessings of My Spirit. I know that you can't see Me, but the minute you start talking to Me and call Me, I come. I'm so happy to be with you. It's the most wonderful experience for Me, being able to love you in the spirit and fill your spirit with My seeds.
53. Don't worry if you don't understand it, or if you don't feel anything; that doesn't matter. Just believe, and receive by faith. I'll do the miracle in the spirit. I'll fill you, inspire you, comfort you and bless you, because you believe. I love you, My precious brides. I love to make love with you. I know you have to take it by faith because you can't see Me, but just believe that I'm really there with you. It's not fantasy, because I'm not a fantasy. I'm real. I can do anything, and I'm there with you in our bed of love because I love you and need you. It's the most beautiful thing in the world when our bodies love one another and merge in the spirit.
54. Just trust Me, receive Me by faith, and let Me fill you and inspire you. (End of message from Jesus.)
55. (Mama:) You might be wondering about some of the Loving Jesus songs which the Lord has given us, which call Him our fantasy, or some of the praise kisses which say the same. We asked the Lord about it and He said:
56. (Jesus speaking:) While I am telling you that I am not a fantasy‚ because I am more than a fantasy—I am real—yet it is fine for you to call Me your fantasy, because in essence you are saying that you desire Me so much that you fantasize about Me—and this is a beautiful compliment of love which I accept with honor. I love it when you turn your thoughts toward Me. I love to be a part of your fantasies‚ your desires, the cravings of your heart. And the most wonderful thing is that when you fantasize about Me, I am right there with you, fulfilling the desires of your heart as you imagine them. Then, when you come Here to My Heavenly Kingdom‚ we will spend many hours enacting each fantasy in living color! I love you! You are My fantasy! (End of message from Jesus.)
Does everyone get a chance to feel Jesus' love?
57. Q: I know Jesus has planned each of our lives differently‚ and maybe He's trying to teach me to have more faith. But I'm wondering if He gives everyone a chance to feel His love personally, or does He just want us to always take it by faith?
58. (Jesus speaking: ) Don't you know that understanding is the reward of faith? So seek not to understand that you may believe, but seek to believe, that you may understand. This is the secret. This is the key to unlock and comprehend the many mysteries of the spirit. To believe, you must have faith. To have faith, you must have the Word—read it and obey it. In this I am well pleased, that although you felt nothing, you kept going by faith, trusting Me that I would bring to pass the promises that I gave.
59. It's not true that some are more worthy of My personal manifestations of love than others. But it is true that I manifest Myself differently with different people. If you'll look around, you'll see that I've greatly blessed you in many ways‚ even though you don't "feel" anything different. It's not a matter of feeling—of what you feel and what you don't feel. Yes, there are people who can "feel" a close link with Me‚ who seem to know Me more intimately, and who may seem like they're closer to Me than you are. But it's not a matter of feelings; it's a matter of faith.
60. You must have faith that when I say I'm close to you, I am close to you. You must have faith that when I say I give you My seeds during our times of close communion, I do give you My seeds, even though you may not see or feel them with any of your physical senses. As it is with the physical, so it is with the spiritual. With physical love, some people are more emotionally affected and feel the love more deeply and express it more fervently than others. So it is with love in the spirit. It affects some people more emotionally and they express it more. But that doesn't mean that they love Me any more than you do, or that I love them any more than I love you.
61. There are many ways to show love for someone, and just because you think you don't physically "feel" My love, this doesn't mean that I'm not loving you or that you're not loving Me. You can love Me in many ways. You can love Me physically by speaking words of love to Me during your times of intimate fellowship with others.
62. I love you in many ways, and can manifest My love for you in many ways. I can show you My love in the eyes of another, as they look tenderly into yours. I can show you My love in the peaceful rest and sleep I give you at night, when your spirit communes with Me for a time of rest and recuperation from the strain and battles of the day. I show you My love in the way I supply your needs and care for you and your loved ones. I can show you My love in the Words that I give you, and in the seeds that you receive from Me in this way. I show you My love by giving you angels to watch over you, who protect and keep you and your loved ones from harm.
63. All of these things, and many more, are My love for you. Some are physical and can be felt. Some are emotional and can be sensed. And yet others are spiritual, which you may never even see or be aware of. But these are all manifestations of My love. So, yes, I do manifest My love to each and every one of My children.
64. Yet you wish to know if you'll always have to take these things by faith, or whether everyone has a chance to feel My love at some time. I work differently in the lives of different people, and I know what each one needs and when they need it. For some‚ they must take things by faith for a long time, before they ever feel it. Others may feel it right away, but then they stop feeling it and they have to take it by faith afterwards. Others may never feel any deep emotion and always have to take My love by faith.
65. My love is so vast and is manifested for you in so many different ways, some of which do not take faith to see or to feel. They just take faith to believe and accept that it's really My love, and not just "that person" or "that contact," but that it's Me loving you through the love of "that person," or through the items "that contact" donates to your Home.
66. But I say to you, trust, be patient, and have faith. Be faithful to seek Me, to love Me, to come before Me to hear My Words, and see if I'll not cause that love in your heart to grow. With Me, all things are possible to him that believeth.
67. I know your heart. I see past the human mind, the carnal flesh, the physical emotions, and I know and can see that you love Me greatly, that you're in love with Me, that you long for Me like no other. I see the love that you manifest for Me in coming before Me, in humbling yourself to love Me intimately, in great faith.
68. Do not seek to understand with the flesh that which is wrought in the spirit, but only trust Me. Believe that there is great power and blessings in the love we have for one another. Though you may not feel the physical sensations, I tell you that in the spirit we thrill to be together, and find great joy when we whisper words of love in each other's ear. (End of message from Jesus.)
I don't feel "in love" with Jesus
69. Q: I don't feel "in love" with Jesus. I feel like He's my closest Friend that I can tell anything to and I honor and respect Him. Of course I love Him to a certain degree, but it's not like I have that feeling of deep love that would go above any human love. Often I wish that I would feel in love with Him; then I wouldn't have to worry about liking someone else. Then Jesus would take the place of that person. So many people, particularly the FGAs, seem to be so in love with Jesus. It seems like He means everything to them. I honestly can't say He means everything to me, although I would like Him to.
70. I often use the praise kisses for Loving Jesus times‚ but I haven't experienced all the things they say. Personally I haven't felt any "ecstasies in the spirit" yet—unless I have but just don't realize it. Or things like, "You're my one and only true love." That's true to a certain degree‚ but in a way I can't truly say that.
71. Are these things supposed to be manifested in the spirit‚ or can we actually experience these things in the physical as well?
72. (Jesus speaking:) You don't have to feel "in love" with Me to love Me deeply and manifest your love for Me. Not everyone has those "in love" feelings, and I've not made that a requisite for pleasing Me or for receiving My blessings. All you need in order to receive My intimate love and blessings is a desire to love Me, to obey‚ to give yourself to Me, and I will give you the rest.
73. You may not even feel that you have much desire to love Me‚ or you feel you're doing it more out of duty, out of obedience, because I've asked it of you. But that's okay. I don't mind that. I see and accept your love and am thankful for it.
74. You see some FGAs who appear to be so in love with Me, and you wonder why you don't feel that way, and why don't I just make it easier for you by giving you those "in love" feelings. But you must realize that for most people‚ their love is put into action and made manifest through faith, even some of these who appear to be so in love with Me. These ones have gone through deep testings and trials and tribulations. They have walked long roads of service with Me by their side, and they've found in Me a strong anchor and security. I've kept them and given them faith and courage. They know they need Me and they depend on Me for everything. Because of this knowledge, they show their love for Me freely and give Me what I desire, whether they feel "in love" feelings or not. As they do this more and more, it becomes more natural and comfortable to them, and they begin to feel this way more themselves.
75. Please don't worry about whether or not you're pleasing Me by judging your love by your feelings. That's not how I look upon you or judge you at all. Just step out and love Me. Make it a habit, and in time you'll become more and more comfortable, and these ways of loving Me intimately and including Me in your life in every way will become second nature to you. Then others will look at you and in turn say, "This one loves Jesus so much, it's clear to see." It's an inner change that I effect on your spirit‚ and the more you love Me, the more this change will show up.
76. But you must not base your decision to love Me on whether or not you have the feelings to go along with it. You can still say sexy love words to Me, even if you haven't experienced that feeling or if you don't feel that way toward Me. Love Me by faith! Our love relationship is a relationship of the spirit, but I in turn shower upon you blessings that you reap in the physical. Sometimes I give feelings, sometimes I don't. I know what's best and just what you need. Just decide you'll love Me because I've given you everything, and let Me take care of the rest—the times without feelings, the times with feelings, and all the other peculiarities that come up in our relationship. I'll take care of it all! Just love Me and know that I love your loving! (End of message from Jesus)
I've lost the passion in my
Loving Jesus dates
77. Q: After the Loving Jesus series came out, I started having loving Jesus dates with a guy I was involved with; we weren't seriously involved, more like sharing partners. But it came so naturally for us to love the Lord together. We both fell so in love with Jesus! We also started getting closer to each other during this time. I can definitely testify to the fact that loving Jesus intimately can change lives!
78. Sometime later I was asked to move to another area. It was hard at first for us to forsake each other, as we had grown quite close, but we both felt that it was the Lord's plan that I move on. When I visit Homes (as I'm a VS), I occasionally share with others and say love words to Jesus with them, but in most of those situations, it's the first time I've had a date with them and there tends to be some nervousness there. It's usually a little awkward for the other person to say love words to Jesus or "be Jesus," as many of them have never done that with anyone before.
79. I do have intimate times with the Lord by myself, and these have been very sweet, but I room with other girls, so I can't really do it very often. I have to say love words to the Lord in my mind so I don't bother anyone else, but it's harder to concentrate sometimes and I usually start thinking about other things.
80. Since I broke up with this guy, I haven't had any real "special" experiences loving Jesus. I know this sounds funny, as Jesus is the same no matter who I'm with, or even if I'm by myself, but I feel like my passionate love for Jesus has faded a little. When I was loving Jesus with that person, I would almost forget I was with him and it would just seem like I was with Jesus. It's harder for me to love Jesus by myself, and it takes a lot more imagination than if I was with someone else who I could touch and feel, but there's not really anyone around that I have regular dates with. I find myself trying so hard to get back that passion I used to feel when I would love Jesus, but trying to do it in the flesh only makes me more frustrated.
81. I know that the Lord is pleased if we just do what we can, but I'm not really satisfied with just whispering love words to Him sometimes. After having such a hot relationship with Jesus before‚ it's hard for me to seem to have less now, and I long to love Jesus like that again. I've tasted His love and I want more! I wonder if maybe there's something that I'm doing wrong, or not doing, that could bring the sparkle back into my lovemaking with Jesus, or maybe this is just a testing time and He wants me to be patient. Is it normal to have a little slump like this, where I don't feel so "in love" like I did before?
82. (Jesus speaking: ) Oh‚ My beautiful bubbly bride, I love how you love Me. I love how you hold Me, I love how you kiss Me, I love how you open your arms and your legs and your heart and soul and body to Me. I love how you thrill Me and delight Me. I love to thrill you and touch you and delight in you. I don't love you more or less, depending on whether you love Me alone or you love Me with someone else. I know that you know this, and have heard this, yet you desire to feel more, to experience more, to feel the emotion and the physical and spiritual closeness that you felt before, but for a time have not felt.
83. These things have not happened because I love you any less, neither have they come upon you because you love Me any less. For as My love for you is steady, sure and unchanging‚ so do I know that your love for Me and your desire and your yieldedness to Me is no less now than when you felt greater passion in your lovemaking with Me and with others. I do not judge you or measure you by how much you feel, by how passionate you feel when sharing My love with others. I know that your heart and spirit and soul cry out for Me, that you hunger for Me‚ that you want Me, that you desire Me, that you long for Me; and this, My love, is the most sexy and exciting way you could look at Me. The longing, the desire for the passion and the heat and the intensity, is just as sexy and desirable to Me as when you actually do feel the passion and the heat and the intensity. I see your longing, your desire‚ and I will fulfill it. I will rekindle the flame of the fire of your love for Me, so that when you love others with Me, or even when you love Me alone, you can feel Me, you can sense Me, and you can feel the fire of passion burning in your spirit and in your body.
84. It's natural that you would have more intense feelings when you love Me with someone who you also love in the flesh, whose body and personality you're comfortable with and happy with. These special feelings of love that I give you for another are a touch and a token of My love. I know and understand that naturally you would feel more excited‚ more passionate, when you can love Me together with someone who you already love in a special way. Yet as you continue to give and share and love your brothers, those who you visit and those who you shepherd and those who you fellowship with, I can also give you special experiences of loving Me together. But it takes time, it's not easy, and it doesn't always flow perfectly right from the start.
85. For though My love is perfect, and though in loving each other you are loving Me, and though you can love with My love regardless of whether you love these others in the flesh, yet I know that you're still in the flesh, in a carnal body; therefore you can't expect to not have any normal‚ natural feelings and thoughts. Just because you love Me together with another, that doesn't always mean it will be easy for you to love each other sexually, or that you'll be passionate lovers for Me or for each other when you're together. But I do promise that if you love Me and bring Me into your loving others, no matter who they are, it will enhance My love in you and your love for Me and your love for each other.
86. With each time, with each experience, you draw closer to Me, you bare a little more of yourself to Me, you yield one more bit of your heart and soul to Me, and you please Me more and more and more. I therefore can continue to please you more and more and more, and take you step by step until you can be completely free, completely at ease in loving Me and loving others. In this freedom you'll find peaceful bliss and the full joy of My Spirit, My holy wild wind of love that blows and flows and overflows and covers and melts and soothes and touches and caresses and shares and gives pleasure.
87. Worry not, and don't let the Enemy tempt you to think that I love you any less, or that you love Me any less, during these times when the flame of passion flickers low. For though it may not be ablaze, it's still hot, it's still burning, and I will blow upon it once again. Yet I ask you to trust Me, to continue loving Me, to walk by faith, to believe, to hold on.
88. Most of all, continue loving Me with all your heart, as I know you do. Speak words of love to Me throughout the day, many times a day. Tell Me over and over of your love for Me, for I never tire of hearing it. And listen—listen to Me and let Me whisper My sweet, sexy words of love in your ear. For I love you. I love everything about you, and I want to tell you every day how much I love you. I have so much to give you and share with you and teach you, My love, and whenever you stop to listen, I can tell you a little more about Me and how I think and how I work and how I feel—how I feel about you and how I feel about the things you're doing and the people you're helping and the decisions you need to make.
89. I'm always here for you, Baby. I don't miss a minute of being with you, and I'm always listening, ready to hear your words of love to Me, and also ready to answer your pleas and your calls for help, your calls for answers, your calls for love. All true love is Mine, and I have so much of it to give. So keep asking, keep desiring, keep hungering, keep sucking; and I will keep giving, pouring, sharing, filling you with My love‚ with My seeds, with My power, with My passion, with My anointing. (End of message from Jesus.)
90. (Mama: ) While the above prophecy was given for an individual, the Lord's expressions of love and desire apply to us all. In this young woman's case, she did experience feelings of being in love with Jesus, and this physical passion was manifested in her dates and times of intimate fellowship with the Lord. Others of you have also felt a spiritual rush, increased desire‚ or some sort of sensation when loving Jesus at some point, but then it faded or disappeared completely.
91. In such a case it's natural to wonder if something has gone wrong or if you're not doing something right. But as the Lord explained above, having such feelings or not having them is no indication of His love for you or even of your love for Him. The fact that some people get the feelings and others never do is also no gauge by which to measure the Lord's love. This is one point that we just have to trust the Lord on—remembering that He knows each of us inside out, and that whether He gives the feelings, doesn't give the feelings‚ or takes them away, He does it all in love!
Part of the solution to loneliness
92. (Mama:) As the Lord explained in the original GN series‚ one of the great benefits of the Loving Jesus revelation is that intimate time spent with Jesus provides companionship and comfort for those who battle loneliness. Many of you have testified that although loving Jesus doesn't necessarily give you someone in the flesh to hold and be your earthly companion, it can fill the empty spot in your heart that had been yearning for a lover and companion if you let it. You've come to realize that by looking at Jesus as your earthly mate, lover‚ and companion‚ He really can be all those things to you and help to greatly diminish your battles in this area.
93. I'd like to share with you a few excerpts of prophecy on this subject—how loving Jesus intimately is part of the solution to loneliness. And for those of you who continue to battle loneliness, Dad has some words of encouragement and counsel:
94. (Dad speaking:) This is one of the reasons the Lord brought along the Loving Jesus revelation when He did, because He knew that loneliness was going to be more of a problem, and there would be more single moms and less men, less affection, and fewer husbands. Why is this? It's because the Enemy is fighting to attack in any way he can, and one of his devices and sources of discouragement is found in loneliness.
95. As things heat up and we move closer to the End, people are making their decisions, and only the men or women who are weak in themselves are able to keep going. The battle conditions vary and get harder and tougher as time goes along. Loneliness is one of these battle conditions that many more are being faced with these days. Each Family member needs to be aware of this and reach out to help fill the needs of those around them‚ but even so, there will still be battles on this front to fight.
96. One great benefit of the Loving Jesus revelation is that any of you who are feeling lonely with that aching in your heart can come to Him as your Husband, your Mate, and your Companion. And for any of you who have felt like this: "But I need something with skin on it, to feel someone's arms around me, to feel the comfort of having somebody in the flesh. I know it's nice that Jesus loves me, but I can't feel Him, I can't touch Him."—To you I say, just keep trying! Just keep loving Jesus. Just keep saying the love words to Him. Continue making love to Him, and letting Him make love to you.
97. This is something you have to do by faith, even if you don't feel anything! Just keep loving Him by faith and He will reward it. He's promised to never fail, and you'll begin to realize it in different ways—that He is answering and that He will fill your loneliness and your empties.
98. At first you may not recognize it or see it, but as time goes on and you remain faithful to love Him and give Him your heart, He will fill your heart. He will fill your loneliness. You'll feel His presence and His comfort. You'll feel His love—but not in the way you think you'll feel Him, because you're looking for your answer in the way of the feelings of the flesh. You're looking for the comfort of physical arms, but He's trying to answer in other ways that you don't yet see.
99. He's answering, but in a different form—not with the feelings of touch and in a physical way, but in trying to give you happiness in your relationship with Him, in giving you a stronger connection with Him, a hunger to spend time with Him and love Him and look to Him. He's answering by giving you a burden to be more loving and affectionate with others, by speaking to your heart and convicting you to spend more time with other people, listening to them‚ putting your arms around them‚ helping you to be more outgoing and sympathetic, to say kind‚ tender, caring words to others. He wants to fill the loneliness with Himself, by giving you more of Himself, and by you giving more of yourself to others. This will heal the loneliness.
100. His Word will never fail. So if He hasn't answered to your satisfaction yet, just keep trying and just keep loving. He cannot fail, and His Word never fails, so you know He'll never fail you! When you've completely given your heart to the Lord and when you've let Him love you fully‚ there will be no room for loneliness—just like there's no loneliness in Heaven, because we're so full of Jesus and His presence and His love. We're receiving so much love and giving so much love‚ and thinking so much of Him and of others, that loneliness has no place Here. For love casts out loneliness, and it fills every need.
101. So let Jesus love you to fill your loneliness. As you make love to Him, He'll cast out your loneliness and fill your heart with a greater love for Him and others. (End of message from Dad)
102. (Dad speaking: ) I'm glad you're learning to love Jesus in a newer, deeper, and more intimate way. He's promised that if you love Him and seek Him and desire Him above all others, He will add all these other things to you in His way and in His time. So continue to be a faithful lover and bride for Jesus, and He will be more than faithful to you, and love you, care for you, and bring those special blessings along just when you need them. He knows and He cares.
103. Don't be limited by any preconceived ideas about Jesus, because Jesus can be whatever you want and desire Him to be for you! He is love and passion and emotion, and He's a sexy and passionate Man! He made sex and pleasure and has all the love you can desire‚ and He wants to fill your every desire of the spirit and the flesh. So keep loving Him and desiring Him, and He'll love you, fill you, comfort you, fill the empties and satisfy you. Just keep on loving Him and hold onto Him and have faith and trust Him. He knows just what you need, and He's got something special for you. (End of message from Dad.)
Becoming familiar with
Loving Jesus
104. Q: I'm afraid that my times of loving Jesus might become too familiar if I'm saying the same love words to Jesus that I also say to others. Is He going to consider them special enough?
105. (Jesus speaking:) I accept all of your words of love, and look upon them as special and personal and sincere. The loving words you say to Me don't have to be reserved for Me alone; I'm happy that you share these with others too. I see deep into your heart and know that when you say these words to Me out of love, obedience and faith, they're very special, very personalized, and this rejoices My heart.
106. If you worry that your relationship with Me is becoming routine or familiar, then simply ask Me what you can do about it. I'll be glad to give you some ideas to spice up our times of lovemaking and intimate fellowship—ideas that will refresh and invigorate and inspire both you and Me. So come to Me if you feel anything is lacking, and I will speak to you and give you counsel. Together we'll keep our relationship and love affair hot and alive and moving! (End of message from Jesus.)
107. (Mama:) You might be wondering specifically what you can do to spice up your intimate times with Him. This is what our Husband said to one person when they were asking Him how they could make their love life with Him more alive and exciting:
108. (Jesus speaking:) Never forget for a moment that I am your Lover. Think of Me always in this way, as your passionate Love, and then live like it every minute of the day. What do lovers do? They spend time together, getting to know each other, exploring each other, and discovering each other's likes and dislikes. They want to learn all there is to know about each other, to uncover every secret about the other, to truly blend together as one in mind, heart and spirit.
109. If you want to keep our relationship alive and passionate, set aside a definite time each day for intimate fellowship with Me—a time when you can come and rest in My arms, when you can let go of your mind and all your cares and slip away with Me into the realms of the spirit world‚ where I can show you things and kiss and caress and make love to you. If you will set aside a special time just for Me‚ to stop and set your heart and mind completely on Me, I will lift you to realms of the Spirit you've never known before.
110. I love it when you spend time reading My Word and hearing from Me in prophecy‚ but I also want you to be My lover. I want you. I want you every minute of every day. I want more than a marriage of convenience, more than a business arrangement. I want a passionate love affair that will never end! In our intimate times together‚ I want to show you new ways to love. I want to love you in every way conceivable. I want to love you like no other can. I want to be everything to you, more than any human lover will ever be!
111. I want to share "special things" with you. If you like, I'll give you a special pet name, and you can have one for Me too. Why not try designating a special place‚ where you can enjoy slipping away with Me from the hustle and bustle of the day? I want to have our special song. I want to have special days together and special nights—times when I can be alone with you. I want to have special celebrations and meaningful times together that just we two share. I want to talk to you about My favorite things, My likes and dislikes‚ My desires. I want to tell you what makes Me happy and let you in on secret things that turn Me on.
112. I want to bring you special gifts, and have you do the same for Me. I want to watch your glowing eyes as you open each present. I want to laugh with you and cry with you. I want you to feel free to tell Me your deepest thoughts, desires and secrets. I want our hearts to be so close that they become one.
113. I don't want you to love Me out of duty alone. I want you to fall deeply in love with Me. I want you to have that driving motivation that wild horses couldn't keep you away from My side. I want you to fall madly in love with Me. I want you to be insatiable for Me, to where you have to have Me all the time‚ to where you're looking for every spare moment you can find to be with Me, to where you feel like you just can't live without Me for one second!
114. As we have this intimate time daily where you come lie in My arms and get lost in My love, you'll become more dependent on Me. As this happens, you'll feel more comfortable saying passionate and loving words to Me throughout the day. It will be natural for you to let go of yourself and raise your arms in praise to Me, or to declare your love and passion for Me in front of others, for nothing else will matter to you.
115. You'll feel so in love with Me that you'll want everyone to know, and this will give you a great sense of freedom. You'll feel on fire as you experience My love and passion burning deep within you. I have so much to give to you. I want to give you My all. We have so much to do together, so many pleasures to enjoy! We have so much ahead of us‚ so much loving to experience! (End of message from Jesus.)
116. (Jesus speaking:) My beautiful bride, lover and sweetheart, I love you! I see deep within you your desire to love Me fully. I see your desire and your longing to have a special link and relationship with Me. You long for that closeness with Me. I say unto you, I will give you the things that you ask for—that oneness, that special relationship with Me. The words that you say to Me will be special, for they truly come from the heart and pour forth with sincerity, with love, and with feeling.
117. Worry not whether our relationship will "work," or whether we'll lose that special touch, for you're bound to Me forever, and I to you, and that love we share is special. The love that you and I share is far greater than the love you'll share with any other. (End of message from Jesus.)