KEYWORDS: kids, fight, children, sheep, god, people

It's Time to Fight

David Berg

—For Your Kids!DO 24648/88

(After seeing the ABC "20/20" Show.)

1. When I think of those poor kids, there the wolves came right into the fold & there were no sheep or sheepdogs, much less a good shepherd to fight to protect them! "A good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep."—John 10:11. Of course when they come with an officer of the law, the police come, then you have to obey, but not when there are no police, & it's just wolves coming to steal your lambs!

2. It's a different story when it's the parents of a new disciple, coming with the police no less! When the police come, yes, you are not to resist an officer of the law! That is a very serious crime! But when they come on their own, just the wolves by themselves to steal the lambs away, not to put up a fight‚ really, I mean that just really infuriates me that they would let them just walk in & take'm!

3. I couldn't see myself allowing such people just to walk in. I mean, they would have had violence on their hands! I'd have socked the daylights out of that woman & knocked her for a loop! I think you know me well enough to know that. I wouldn't let them walk in here & take my kids without a fight, unless it is an actual officer of the law with a gun on his hip & a valid warrant in his hand‚ then I am forced by the Word of God to obey! But in a case of only wolves, there is no excuse for letting them take the kids, no excuse!

4. If I'd have been there they wouldn't have gotten those four kids so easily! … I would have taken out my shepherd's rod & smitten them! She did that too easily! I was disappointed in our people's lack of fight!

5. God damn that church & that woman & those demons that helped her! And Lord have mercy on the poor little kids! Help them, Lord, in Jesus' name, to appreciate You all the more & their lives & training all the more in the Family through having to go back & live in the System—I started to say, & then I changed it to "pit," but it came out spit!—Shit!—The Shit Pit!

6. He probably thought he was pacifying her when he was writing her back & forth & sending her photos & things. But instead of that he was playing right into her hands! That woman is not going to have a minute's peace, that devilish woman! If those kids stick to their guns they're going to make life miserable for her, which is exactly what they ought to do! She might be able to make them all happy part of the time or part of them happy all of the time‚ but she's never going to make them all happy all of the time, & somebody is going to give her Hell!

7. The sad thing about it is she'll probably wind up in an institution, gone crazy or something, & the kids might have to be separated then. Which is probably the reason the Lord is not killing her now so that at least the kids can stay together. "A good shepherd lays down his life for his sheep!" I think I would have fought them tooth & tong. … A shepherd has to kill wolves sometimes‚ especially when they're trying to snatch lambs from a fold! It would be just about worth going to jail for!

8. I think people would have sympathised with him if he had fought for his kids. But according to the video he let them go almost too easy. I'll tell you what impression the System will get from it: That he felt guilty for keeping them & therefore he considered she was right & let her have them without a struggle. Therefore the Systemites watching that thing felt all the more justified in her taking them because he didn't even have enough guts to fight for them!

9. I would say unless they actually bring the law, officers of the government with legal papers that are valid locally‚ arrest warrants or whatever from the local government in which they're living, they ought to fight for them, even if they have to use violence!

10. I think the government would even understand a father fighting for his children against a mother coming to steal them! …

11. There are lots of ways of stalling it, especially if you're in a different country‚ where the mother's home country's papers are totally invalid.—Unless they manage to get an international INTERPOL arrest warrant. But she didn't have any good papers, they even confessed it on the film, she didn't have a paper that was valid in [that country] at all.

12. She looked hard & mean & had really evil eyes, bitter! What made her that way? They'll probably have her write a book on it! It would be a much more exciting story than Deb's.

13. I remember the last instructions I gave the Family along that line is when [they] are knocking at your front door, you & the kids ought to be going out the back door & go to the nearest Home where you can hide, before I'd ever let [anyone] take your kids! (See No.142:13!) They ought to think about that before they rent a house—is there an easy way to get out the back way. Is there an escape route? Oh, Jesus‚ Lord, help us to learn how to protect Thy children‚ Lord, these little lambs!

14. Boy, I tell you, I think I would have raised the car's hood & pulled out all of the wires or the distributor & thrown it away so they couldn't have even driven off!

15. The FBI has absolutely no business & no power whatsoever in any other country! Now the CIA is authorised by the U.S. government to infiltrate & spy, etc., but they don't have any authority either in foreign countries. They can't tell you what to do.

16. We need to tell the Family that any kind of papers issued in the United States are not valid in any other country at all, unless the country you're in sends their own police to enforce it or to try to do it. You have absolutely no obligation to obey any kind of papers issued in your home country unless you're there.—No obligation to obey any arrest warrants or custody warrants or anything in any other country. You don't have to obey the FBI or the CIA or the U.S. Embassy! None of them have any authority whatsoever unless they can persuade the police in that country to take action. People usually have to violate some law of the country they're in for them to take any kind of action.

17. Can you imagine anybody trying to take our kids, & me just letting them go? Can you imagine? Can you imagine me letting them go without a fight? I'd have a fight on the spot first of all! If they still got away with it, I would have followed them! I wouldn't have given up until I had either gotten the kids back or [stopped] the wolves that stole them or they killed me! I would have followed them back to the States … & trying to [get] them back!

18. If there's anything in this World I can do to help those kids get away, I'm going to do it. May that God-damned fiend live in fear & terror, that demonic woman! "The wicked flee when no man pursueth."—Pro.28:1. …

19. They were reared up in the way they should go & when they have a chance & they are older I believe they will come back. I think they already see what a shit pit the System is! (Maria: Yes, the oldest boy refused to go to school because he said it was destroying him.) God bless him! God bless him! Lord help him to stick to his guns. Of course, if he does, they'll probably put him in a reformatory. (Maria: Yes, or a psychiatric institution.—That's the favourite U.S. method today.) Yes, or in a reformatory as a juvenile delinquent. Although he might be better there than under her. (Maria: But he couldn't help his other brothers & sister.)

20. Well‚ we need to be able to tell those kids what to do! Honey, we are obligated to those kids! We're their parents! We've got to be able to give them some kind of advice. As long as their father is still in communication with them we've got to be able to tell him what to tell them.—And he's gotta try to get'm back!—He owes it to'm!—To show'm he & we still love'm!

THE GOOD SHEPHERD GIVETH HIS LIFE FOR THE SHEEP!

21. How come he didn't fight for them? How come he didn't [fight]? "A good shepherd layeth down his life for his sheep!" How come he didn't die trying? I think that would have been a greater testimony to his kids than him just yielding so easily, so weakly‚ & letting them go. I think they would have really appreciated seeing that their father loved them enough to die for them!—That they would never have forgotten!

22. Wouldn't you rather see me die fighting for our children & for you? (Maria: Yes, Sir!) I'm probably going to be a martyr, Honey!—Because I am not going to give in to that sort of thing. I'm going to die fighting, God help me! I would rather die than surrender!

23. I'll tell you right now‚ I want to see that father fight for those kids or I'll be ashamed of him if he doesn't!—Even if he has to go back & give his life to show those kids how much he loves them! "A good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep!"

24. I'd rather see him go back there & … try to get those sheep back & go to jail for it & let them know how much he loves them, than to see him let her just take them away so easily! I don't think he fought enough. He's big enough, strong enough, he could have knocked those guys for a loop, those little shrimps!

25. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this story gets out in the East because it happened in the East. Probably one of the first places they're going to show that thing is in [that country]. It's a story that happened in the East & it's apt to come out in the East.

26. I'm not going to let this thing go & just drop it, I'm going to do something about it!—If I don't do anything but use it as an example to the rest of the Family not to let the wolves come in & steal our lambs without a fight!

27. Even the System can understand a father fighting for his children!—And the Thai authorities were probably amazed that he gave up so easily! They were probably expecting violence. Even the investigators were certainly expecting violence & were probably amazed how easily he gave up!

28. I bet his friends in [that country] were disappointed that he didn't fight for those kids because they knew those papers they had were no good there. If he had fought for those kids it would have been a victory for [that country]! I bet you anything they were expecting him to fight for them!

29. I'm ashamed of the Homes if they put the quietus on him to try to protect themselves! Boy oh boy!—That's like saying, "Well‚ let the wolves have them rather than cause us any trouble."

30. Give us wisdom‚ Lord! Give us guts! Give us faith! Give us fight! You said, "Resist the Devil & he will flee from you!"—Jam.4:7. Fight the good fight! Fight the good fight of faith! You have told us to fight, Lord, not surrender. May this seeming defeat, Lord‚ turn out to be a real victory, if not in this case at least in others!

31. I believe in protecting the lambs, even if it means going back into the lions' den to fight for them, in Jesus' name! "A good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep!" They've got to fight & defend their lambs!—Even if they have to lay down their lives for the sheep & even kill a few wolves! Those wolves need to be notified that we're going to fight them if they try to threaten our sheep! We're going to fight … before we'll let them rip off our sheep, especially our little lambs! We're going to fight, violently fight! Hallelujah! TYJ!

32. I'm going to send that father back to try to rescue them! I want all of the details‚ all of the technical legal details. I want to know whether he's actually divorced from his wife yet or not. If he is not divorced, he has a perfect right to go back & move right in with her, if necessary, to try to figure some way to rescue them.

33. This time he is going to risk his life to fight for & lay down his life for the sheep, as a good shepherd as an example for other parents. In Jesus' name, amen! She was willing to come halfway around the World to get the kids. Is he willing to go halfway around the World to get them back for the Lord? Is he willing to lay down his life for the sheep, especially those little lambs?—She was! What's the matter with him, huh? I want to see him go back & get them, or at least fight for them‚ if nothing else, even if he has to lay down his life for them!—In Jesus' name, amen!

34. "A good shepherd layeth down his life for the sheep!" And how does he lay it down?—Trying to prevent the wolves from stealing them, meaning he's even killing wolves to keep them from stealing them! I'd rather see him [fight] the wolves & go to jail for it & let those poor little kids know that he loves them enough to [fight] for them.—And we love'm & we sent him back to get them. In Jesus' name, amen! We have a right to [stop] wolves that try to steal our little lambs! In Jesus' name, amen!

THE DEVIL'S LATEST ATTACK AGAINST US & OUR KIDS!

35. Their latest attack is going to be to encourage people to take our children away from us under the pretext that we are abusing them, & I have a real warning about it that we're going to have to go on the attack & defend our children! I think that thing is going to spread around the World! They're just using that show as their initial attack & they're going to try to spread it around the World to take our kids away from us, & I really believe we need to go on the attack ourselves & tell our Homes & people what to do!

36. I have a feeling it's urgent & we need to forewarn our Homes of the Devil's new attack, that this is the new way they're going to try to hurt us. They found out that publicising our sex message really doesn't do all that much damage to us‚ people are just amused. The only place it did any damage to speak of was the Philippines with all of those Catholics & Holiness Christians there. …

37. In deliberately stirring up a furor all over the World right now in this big publicity campaign against child abuse, I had the feeling they were after us! When I first started hearing about this big drive against child abuse all over the World, I knew that that was the next thing they were going to try to get us on, to steal our children, the wolves running off with the little lambs. (See "Guard Your Children," No.1698.)

THE FATHER SHOULD GO BACK & GET THE KIDS!

38. Did I tell you what came to me about him? I think he ought to do the same trick!—Go back to his wife & pretend reconciliation, & when he's finally got her confidence & the confidence of the kids, etc., take off with what he can, probably the older ones at least. What about the church & the other people? What about the judge? He's got a right to go to law‚ to at least share his kids if nothing else. He might get legal custody of the older ones.

39. I believe he could go there with a good lawyer & fight it! There are lawyers who will fight, if for no other reason but money. I'd be willing to pay for it to get even two of those kids back! I'm sure the judge would probably award the younger ones to her, they usually do. But I believe he could get the two older ones. The older boy is almost old enough anyhow. Two or three more years & he can run away & they'd never go looking for him, so many kids run away.

40. (Maria: The older boy probably takes it as his responsibility to stay & help the younger ones while they're all together. He probably feels like he needs to stay with his other brothers & sister to help them make it.) But what if he's fed–up & he sees he can't do anything as long as she's around?

41. You know what she would hate to see?—The father show up! You know what it would do?—Two things: Either she'd have to reconcile, which would immediately take away her allotments from the government. A widow & four children is costing that local government a lot of money, & they'd be happy to dump'm if he's there & gets a job & goes to work & offers to support her & them! What is she going to do then? And what is the judge going to do?

42. Does that county still want that load of hundreds of Dollars a month of widow & child support? If he offers to get a job, tries to get a job, I mean even in the time that he's there, if he was able to get a job, at least he could act like he was looking for a job & he wants to support'm. As I told you before, I'd be happy to pay his fare home. He could go on unemployment insurance there until he could get a job. And she may be fed up enough with them by that time that she'll be ready to dump the two older ones. Those are the ones that are fighting her & giving her the most trouble. The oldest boy refused to go to school & the girl is a real fighter! GBH!

43. He needs to get there before they give up & lose their fight & get discouraged. I mean, what could the judge do if he's there trying to get a job & says he wants to be reconciled, what's the judge going to do? (Maria: He could just say, "Look‚ I couldn't stand the loss of my children & I had to come back & be with them.")

44. I think everybody was disappointed in him letting them go so easily. She couldn't have taken them away legally by any means on this Earth there in [that country]‚ not at all! Even those officials there knew him well enough, I believe they'd have sided with him. Well‚ there were church people & other people against him, but they could have had a fight, a legal fight‚ if he'd fought for them. He just let them go too easily. Now he's going to have to go back where it's really tough & fight for them in the U.S. where there's almost total prejudice against him.

45. The favourable article that appeared in the New York Times News Service commenting on ABC's "20/20" show said, "Compared to their father, Richard—who despite the slightly goofy smile that seems pasted on his face, does not at all seem to be threatening—the investigators come on like strong-armed types, & the mother assumes the role of the wicked witch from the West. Like a revealing moment in a play, it suddenly confronts us with the possibility that we have been identifying with the wrong character, this encounter arouses mixed feelings about who is doing what to the children. ... It almost is enough to make you want to hear more from Moses David!"

46. I prayed, "Lord, You make that program so that it would have the opposite effect that they expect!" See, it actually got outsiders to sympathise more with him than her! (Maria: It made him seem harmless, that's what they're saying here, "He does not at all seem to be threatening.") Exactly! (Maria: The Lord must have used his attitude & his smile, because if he had looked threatening, then they would have gotten a lot more scared.) Yes, he looked absolutely harmless, that's for sure! (Maria: Maybe it's the Lord that that happened so they won't be expecting us to attack & they'll be off their guard.) Amen!

47. Well, I am not giving up as easy as he did! (Maria: We'll be ready for'm next time!) And all of our families had better be ready for them! And he had better go back & prove that a parent can fight for them & get at least some of them. We've had other parents do it, gone back to the States & fought for their kids & got at least some of them back.

48. But one of the best things that could be done & one of the best publicities that could be gotten is to let "20/20" have to continue that story & find out how wrong they were & that he won some of his kids back again legally. Let him go back & fight for them & win them legally. I don't think she's got a leg to stand on as far as keeping all those kids is concerned.

49. I think he ought to go back & fight‚ even at the risk of his life! "The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep!" I mean it, that's the burden I got. I prayed all night about it & that's what I got. He needs to go back & fight for them. And I'm sure any judge in his right mind would at least split the kids if nothing else. (Maria: Even if he does belong to a very "insidious sex cult"!) Oh yes, yes, yes!—Ha!

INCEST

50. On the question of incest, there's only one thing you can possibly do & that's deny it up & down! (Maria: We don't believe in it & we don't practice it!) Absolutely not! I never had incest with either one of my daughters, flat out!

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53. (Dictionary definitions of incest: "A sexual relationship between close relatives in a family, as between brother & sister; sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that marriage between them is forbidden by law or taboo.")

54. They should absolutely deny it up & down, that we do not believe in incest & we do not practice it & there's nothing in those Letters which they can use to prove we advocate actual incest. Those pictures they showed on the "20/20 Show" didn't show any incest at all!

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58. (Maria: They say, "Well, what about all these pictures & suggestive titles [in the Story of Davidito book]?" "Well, what about them? The actual text, if you read it, has to do with health & sex education, not sexual practices!" In other words, no matter what they throw at us, say, "Well, you can think what you want, but you can't prove it!") Just absolutely deny it, that's all you can do. I have flatly‚ categorically denied any such things!

GETTING BACK THE KIDS!

59. Now if he's afraid to go there & fight for the kids, then the other thing I would suggest is that he go there & if he's in communication with any of the children at all by mail, that he figures some way to get them. …

60. She's got their passports, but he's the father & he can go & apply for passports. There are a lot of buts, ifs, ands, what ifs & all the rest. The thing he would have to do is at least try! The fight is almost always over very young children. The fights I've read about in the paper, nearly always it's little 2– & 3- & 4- & 5-year-old children. I never heard much of a fight ever over teenage children, that any court or justices or any police have been searching a continent or all over the World for a father who has simply taken his teenage children with him. They're always concerned about the little ones, that they should be with their mother.

61. That's what the big fight was about there in Europe about that father in the System who came over & got his little girl from England & then disappeared in France, & the mother managed to swear out a warrant that he had kidnapped her!—And INTERPOL were looking all over Europe trying to find him, & I think even reluctantly at that. I think a lot of police officers, especially men, would have sympathised with him.

62. And the end of that story as far as I recall is that they found him & arrested him, but they never brought him up on kidnap charges at all, because he was in their country & he had not kidnapped the child in that country & there was no warrant out against him in that country or anything like that. They just found him & took the little girl away from him & took her back to her mother‚ that's all, in that case in Europe. As I recall, he only spent a few days in jail waiting while the authorities found out whether the mother really had legal custody of the child & that the father didn't‚ & that's the only thing they got him on. They just simply took her away from him & sent her back to her mother.

63. I never recall anywhere in any paper, & I absolutely scour the newspaper‚ of any stories where any father was jailed for simply taking one of his older children & vamoosing with that child, especially teenage children. They consider that teenage children have a right to make a choice. They do it in divorce courts all the time, they give the older child a choice.—Children as young as 6‚ 7, 8 years on up, giving that child a choice‚ which they want to do, "Do you want to go with your father or your mother?" And that has influence on the case.

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65. Of course, I wouldn't put it past that mother to even lie. … She'd go to any lengths, just like she did. But I don't even think she would have done what she did if that church & those lawyers & different ones hadn't encouraged her to do it, & if she hadn't needed the money! I think that was the crux of the whole thing. They told her, "Look, you can have a good income if you get those other kids. You'd have so much money! The county would give you so much money per month for each additional kid."

66. So she no doubt got the help of the churches & the ACs, of course, who are out to get us, & a church, a judge & a Congressman, & that just kind of dressed it up & gave it a little higher sounding authority, that she had prominent people on her side trying to help her, blah blah!

67. I'm sure the main reason a lot of those mothers are looking for their kids is for child support, to get enough of them to make money! Let me tell you‚ nearly all those [poor single] mothers live on child support! And I've heard tales about them, how their husband sneaks in the back door at night but vanishes in the daytime when the welfare worker comes around to find out if she's really deserted & her husband is really gone. Then they can live in style! The more children they have the merrier! They get more & more support for every child. So if they can have a lot of children, they can really live well. They get an apartment, they get their utilities, they get plenty of money for their food, they get medical care for the children‚ they get everything!

68. It's one of the biggest rackets in the U.S.A.! Being an unmarried mother in the U.S.A. has gotten to be a major racket for milking the welfare, & they can get it, the judges give it to them all the time. "Here's a poor unwed mother with a bunch of fatherless children!"

69. Well‚ I think he ought to at least try. God's Word says a good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep, that means he's even willing to die for his sheep! If he's not willing to risk jail to go home & get his children, then he doesn't deserve to have them! If he's not willing to suffer for'm, he doesn't deserve to have them. That's how I feel about it.

70. I doubt if the judge would have awarded her temporary custody for more than a few months at the most, certainly not more than six months, & she would have to go to court again to get the judge to give her more time. I wonder if he read those papers enough to find out how long the custody was, temporary custody until when? If she only got a judgement of temporary custody until a certain date, he could go there & get the kids & take off with them, if she hasn't got continued custody or permanent custody.

71. Those papers weren't even any good in [that country] anyway so it's ridiculous! Those papers probably weren't even good any further than the state of [that state]! They might not have even been any good any further than the county in [that state]. He could have been a county judge‚ some little old nincompoop that they persuaded to give temporary custody.

72. (Maria: This New York Times News Service article would be really good to use in our favour.) Yes!—People are getting wise & fed up with those kidnappers & deprogrammers! They're beginning to stand up for the other side & see how horrible that is & how unfair & illegal it is! …

73. What about kidnapping? They're the ones that did the kidnapping!—And the judgements for kidnapping are far worse in the United States than all the rest of that stuff put together! In some states you can go to jail for life for kidnapping! (Maria: Well, they don't consider it kidnapping if the mother has custody.) Well anyhow, it was illegal in [that country].

THE NEED TO PUT UP A FIGHT!

74. He just didn't fight enough! Now he's going to have to go back & fight there to do it. I'm convinced we've got to put up a fight or it's going to encourage other people to try the same thing. But if they know they're going to be facing a fight & a real fight, I mean defense with violence if necessary‚ they're going to be discouraged from going to all that expense & all that trouble. It must have cost a fortune! It must have taken the cooperation & the gifts of both the church & that Congressman & that "Child Find" outfit & the TV show! I bet they all put their money together to finance the whole thing, because that cost tens of thousands of Dollars!

75. If I was any county officer I would have been sorry to see'm coming, because it meant costing the county welfare thousands of Dollars more for another widow & four orphans! The county may be happy to see him coming to take some of that load off their shoulders!

76. Well, I just simply believe it's worth a try & I don't think we ought to let the wolves come in & steal our little lambs without even a battle, without a struggle‚ without putting up any kind of defense whatsoever! I believe in violence when it comes to defending my wife & my children! "A strong man armed keepeth his goods in peace."—Lk.11:21. Why did Jesus say when they brought out two swords, "It's enough."—Lk.22:38. They had two swords amongst them, & He said‚ "It's enough. Okay, that's enough, that's all you need." But you do need a couple!—Why, if you don't need to use'm?—Maybe only two would scare away the wolves!

77. "And he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. And they said, Lord, behold‚ here are two swords. And He said unto them, It is enough. When they which were about Him saw what would follow, they said unto Him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword? And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And He touched his ear, and healed him."—Luke 22:36B‚38 & 49-51. The Lord advised'm to have swords & let'm use'm!

78. The Lord is not totally against violence, He uses it Himself! God is not a pacifist! (Read "God Is Not a Pacifist!" ML #2242.) Our people need to learn to use violence to fight for their rights & certainly to protect their wives & children!—And they need to get with it now!—Not against officers of the law, that's where I draw the line, because there you're really in trouble, you violate all kinds of laws‚ resisting an officer, obstructing justice & all kinds of things when it's an officer of the law.

79. But when these people come illegally & without any such authority in whatever country you're in & try to take away your children without the authority to do so, without any legality to do so whatsoever in that country‚ you need to put up a fight! Avoid a fight if you can, just sneak off with them & hide them, get away with them, & hope they don't get the cooperation of the authorities to actually bring police. If there're no cops, then you can fight! You can fight in that country! They'll have to take you to a judge, to a court in that country‚ to see if the wolves have the right to take away your children in that country.—Not just because they've got papers from some little dinky county judge back in [that state] or [the next] or wherever! Even if they bring the cops & order your arrest, you can still protest it. … And I think some of those countries would take your side instead of letting some American or whoever it is come & take all your kids!

80. My God, we certainly could have had enough men there that they could have outfought'm! I don't think those people wanted to go to the law, they knew they hadn't a legal leg to stand on, it said so right on the show! They knew they had no legal right in [that country] to take them whatsoever. So what's the law going to decide when they have no legal right & they come & violently try to take the kids away? I think the law would sympathise with a father who violently tries to defend his kids!—And anybody else that goes to bat for him & helps him!

81. When it comes to that point, I'm for fighting! And if they bring the law, legally with arrest warrant or charge or whatever & policemen, then you have to yield, you have to peacefully go with them. But you can still fight'm legally! They can't just take'm & take off with them. That's why they were scared every minute until they got on that plane for fear that he would contend & fight! "Contend earnestly for the faith!"—Jude 3. If we can contend earnestly for the faith, God help us to contend earnestly for our children!

82. So I hope our Family gets up a little fight & defends our children!—And if they don't, they're failing God & they're failing their children! Because "the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep!"—And that means when they're being attacked by the vicious wolves of the World, as in this case & other cases.

83. Our Family has got to learn to stand up & fight! Fight! I believe I would have fought that woman before I'd let her take my kids away! I believe it!—If she had no policemen & no official authority whatsoever in that country. I believe he wouldn't have had to fight her‚ if he could have just run off with the kids or hidden them or fought with them. If he'd had a gang of our men there to fight‚ those wolves would have given up & run!

84. "The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep," & if he's not willing to go back & try to get them, I think he's failing his children & his children will feel like he has deserted them & failed them. But at least if he goes back, even if he has to spend a few days in jail or something for it, they would love him for it & know that he really loves them, that he's willing to go back & suffer for them & sacrifice for them & risk his life for them or even give his life for them! At least those poor little sheep will know that he loves them & that God loves them & we love them!

85. "The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep!"—And may we be good shepherds & be willing to lay down our lives for our sheep‚ in Jesus' name. God help us!

SALLY'S CHILDREN

86. (Maria asks if Sally should have tried to get her children back from Justus who took off with three of them back to the States.) ... To get into a legal fight & go to court & all that sort of thing? He knew he was in a position that we would be afraid to fight. (Maria: We?) Yes, we. How could she have done it without our help? Anyhow, he stole'm & sneaked off with them! He got their passports & she couldn't stop him. (Maria: I know, but should she have gone like this father to the States?)

87. No‚ in that case it's entirely different. She had to forsake the children for her vital job! (Maria: Because she had a job to do, a more important job to do, so she had to give them up for the sake of the Work.) She had to give them up for the sake of the Work. And I'll bet those grandparents are sorry now, what do you want to bet? I'll bet he became an old drunk & the kids went astray! In every case they've done that sort of thing.

88. Look at all the trouble Jeth & Deb's kids have gotten into, & all the trouble they've gotten into.—And she giving as her excuse for the whole thing a sexual excuse, of all the ridiculous things! No, that wasn't the problem, the problem was spiritual from the day she was born with her mother's rebellious spirit!

WE WILL FIGHT TO DEFEND OUR FLOCK!

89. Let's declare war on the Enemy! We're supposed to have declared it long ago. It just turns out that some of these people don't seem to understand they're supposed to fight! (See ML#s 143A‚ 1548, 1581:26, 1718, 1967:28-29, 2242.)

90. It does a lot more damage to give our kids the impression that we don't care enough about'm to fight for'm, that we don't really love'm! What kind of a family is that? What kind of shepherds are those who don't lay down their lives for the sheep? Every case has to be judged on its own circumstances, yes, that's true, but this was a very bad case, & I am sure that it was designed by the cooperation of all of our enemies & is a part of a bigger plan, as it has been for 2 or 3 years now, to emphasise the evils of child abuse & all that stuff to excuse this kind of vicious rip-off!

91. The Devil has been getting his people ready for this sort of thing, that they should do this sort of thing‚ they should stand up & fight & illegally kidnap kids, etc. I'm sure that that film, that ABC "20/20" Show, is going to be used as a primary attack tool to get people to fight to steal our kids! The Devil & his children are prepared to fight & go to any lengths & any expense to fight to steal God's children, to steal them away! What's the matter with God's children? What's the matter with God's people & the Family that you're not willing to fight & lay down your lives for your sheep? Huh?

92. Well, we're going to put them on notice that they are going to have a fight! That thing is going to be shown to encourage people that we won't fight, "It's going to be easy, just go get your kids"! Well, we are going to put them on notice with a declaration of war that if they come to try to steal away our kids, we are going to fight & be violent if necessary & lay down our lives for our sheep! We're not going to let'm take'm except over our dead bodies! That father can now redeem himself by going back & dying for those little lambs if necessary to show them that we love them! Let's see him go back & confront his little bitchy witchy wife & that God-damned Shit Pit & rescue those kids if possible‚ & if not, die trying! And if he won't do it, I will!

93. I've heard enough about it already to judge the situation, & the judgement is that he failed to defend his little lambs, he failed to lay down his life for the sheep, so now he's going to have to do it if it kills him!—To show those kids if nothing else, if he goes to jail or they shoot him, that he cared enough to fight for them‚ which he did not show when their mother stole'm!

94. He didn't show any guts, no conviction!—Just like it was perfectly all right for his wicked witch to carry off those little lambs with the help of those wolves & just let'm go! "We don't care, we won't fight, just let the Enemy have his way. Let the wolves in, open the barn door, open the fold gate, let the wolves just come in & ravage the flock! Even help'm cooperate, keep sweet, grin!"

95. Well, we're going to have to put the Devil & his crowd on notice that we are not pacifists & that we will fight to defend our flock, & we will do violence if necessary … to defend them! We will lay down our lives for the sheep, especially the little lambs who can't defend themselves! My God, of all the people who ought to defend a family & his children it's a father! That's what he's for! And if it turns out that his wife is a wolf, then for God's sake he's got to defend the poor little lambs from their wolfess! My Lord Jesus, help us!

96. I've given that counsel I don't know for how long! Maybe not that emphatically or clearly, but I have said time & again when the 10:36ers are coming in the front door‚ the people they're looking for should be going out the back door & not stand there & argue! It depends on the situation, of course, it depends on each case.

97. Well‚ we want to put our enemies on notice that it's not going to be that easy & we are going to fight to the death for our little lambs! We're going to lay down our lives for those sheep as any good shepherd would! And if he is a good shepherd & still has any father-love for those kids at all‚ he is going to go back & fight for them!

98. God help us not to be such sickening, pusillanimous, string-for-a-backbone, milk–&-water-for-blood people that we haven't got any guts to fight! That whole show was to try to show how easy it is, "They won't fight, everybody now run & get your kids! They won't fight, you can just go & get'm!"

99. That's going to precipitate a wholesale haul-off of our kids if we don't let'm know right away that it's not going to be easy, we are going to fight! They need to know it! They need to be put on notice that we are declaring war on them & we are going to defend our kids & we are not going to let'm come & just take'm that easy! It's going to cost'm something! It's going to cost our enemies something if it costs us our lives to fight for our kids!

100. I must be like Peter. Of all the disciples of Jesus, I admire Peter most on the night those demons came to arrest Jesus, at least he pulled out his sword & tried to do something! That doesn't always mean something bad, that "he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."—Mat.26:52. …

101. I hope we're not a bunch of sissies with no guts! I was littler than all those bullies in school, but I fought! I got the worst of it but I fought! I hope we don't have any more like that in the Family, who are willing to just hand their little lambs right over to the wolves without a fight, without a struggle, in fact make it easy for'm! "Keep sweet, keep grinning!"

102. I am not that kind, I'm sorry! I went to bat for my kids in California. I went to court with'm, I went to jail with'm, at least to the jail to visit with them, I made myself very evident when I fought for'm! …

103. … [But] you can't fight the System, you can't fight the power, to them you have to yield.—Rom.13.

104. I don't mean fighting police, I mean fighting those wolves! You have to obey the law. (Maria: You did that with Lydia too.) Yes, we picked Lydia up & ran & kept her away from that damned Dad & Uncle from then on, & thank God she's still with us! … TTL! TYJ!

105. We didn't get this Family by being pusillanimous‚ willy-nilly, milk-&-water, sickening surrenderers! We got it by fighting where it counted & where we could! Thank God for some of our early fighters, Josh & Mac & some of those boys, who were willing to stand up for the Truth & stick up for their rights & fight! They didn't fight the law, though. When the law came & evicted them from TSC & Los Angeles, they went out. That was Fred's property & they left. But they kept fighting with publicity & just nearly ruined Fred's work & his reputation. The news in those days sympathised with us. That's how we got started, we fought!

106. I mean to tell you, this is an army & we're going to put on the whole armour of God & fight‚ not just let the Enemy walk right all over us & trample us into the mud & take away our kids! I'm not going to put up with it & I hope to God nobody else in the Family is going to put up with it! (Maria: I bet they won't after this!) I would've probably knocked that woman & those guys for a loop … to protect those kids if they'd been my kids, & they are my kids & we are going to fight for them! (Maria: He did have contingency plans for the kids. We have to give him credit for that.) Yes, but it would have been far better to make plans to keep them out of the hands of the Enemy instead of plans for what to do after they got kidnapped! Both are necessary, of course.

BEGINNING OF AN ALL-OUT ATTACK!

107. I've often wondered what I'd be willing to die as a martyr for. I think if there was ever any cause that I'd be willing to die for, it's to try to rescue these children or defend them, or my own family, or maybe any of our Family!

108. We're in a new war! Well, it's not exactly a new war, but it's sort of a revival of an all–out attack on us, this attack on our children. They've given up on us more or less, but they're going to try to get the kids. Who would the Devil rather have the most?—Our children! They're the ones reared in the Family, really brainwashed, thank God! The rest of us, God only knows how long we'll last, but they're now trying to get the kids. It's a new all-out onslaught!

109. But their tactics are nothing new! After the French Revolution they took the Dauphin of France, the little Prince who was supposed to be the next king, & put him with an old whore, made him live with this old whore who tried to teach him all kinds of dirty things & dirty language & everything else. And it is said that he stuck his fingers in his ears & would constantly say, "I won't! I won't! I was born to be a king! I won't! I won't! I was born to be a king!"—And our kids are born to be kings! May God help'm to fight!

110. So this practice of grabbing the kids & trying to pollute & corrupt them is nothing new on the Devil's program. That's exactly what they're trying to do—grab them & corrupt them! They're so blind they don't know that their way is corruption, their whole life is corruption, the System shit-pit life is corruption! They actually think they're doing what's right. "He that killeth you will think he serves God!"—Jn.16:2. And that's partly the churches' fault for teaching them that way! They & the [ACs] are our biggest enemies—& relatives!

111. You people have got to get the point that church people, antagonistic relatives & all the ACs, are our dedicated enemies! They've even stirred up the rest of the populace—who normally would have been indifferent—to be antagonistic through their child abuse campaign!

112. I think it's the beginning of an all-out attack on us to try to get at us through the children, & they've hyped up this child abuse thing for the last two or three years to get the whole World infuriated about it! The Devil knows what he wants to use it for—us! He doesn't give a damn about his own children, they're already gone, but he's trying to get ours, the Lord's! So this is going to be their way of attack. I warned about this years ago. (See "Guard Your Children," ML #1698‚ 4-1/2 years ago!)—Amen?

113. —And lest you think we don't really mean it, I suggest we start excommunicating parents who don't fight for their kids!—It's a terrible, punishable Family offense!—For you not to defend & fight for your kids! Let'm know you really love'm & are willing as good shepherds to lay down your lives for'm!—Amen?—OK!—Let's fight!

—WILL YOU FIGHT?