KEYWORDS: god, lord, flesh, body, words

Sex in Heaven

David Berg

—By Father DavidJuly, 1970, TSC.GP818

(Transcribed & Edited by: Beriah & Beth Wire, from original tape.)

© Jan. 1980 by World Services, PF 241, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland.

1. SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT ANY RECOGNITION AT ALL OF YOUR NATURAL NEEDS, AS SOMEONE REMARKED THE OTHER NIGHT, IS GLORIFICATION OF THE FLESH. Well apparently, the Lord has glorified it. He created it, & He sure made you beautiful people! You're created in His image! That's what I call quite a bit of glorification—for flesh to be created in the image of God!

2. ALL WE'RE DOING IS ACCEPTING WHAT THE LORD HAS CREATED, thanking Him for it, appreciating it and trying to get over those old System hangups and inhibitions—that there's something evil about your body. The Apostle said‚ "I'm persuaded there is nothing evil of itself, and all things come of God!" (Rom.14:14 & 2Cor.5:18.) God created it, created you and intended for you, in the first commandment, to "be fruitful and multiply‚" amen? (Gen.1:28.)

3. THERE WILL BE NATURAL FLESH-AND-BLOOD PEOPLE IN THE MILLENNIUM, WHO WILL STILL BE MULTIPLYING, as far as we know. Fucking is no sin! It was commanded by God, "be fruitful & multiply," before man fell!

4. THEY SAY YOU SHOULDN'T USE SUCH NAUGHTY WORDS, tcktcktck! But you understand it, don't you? It's a funny thing, the whole damned System is trying to get rid of the original English language!

5. DO YOU KNOW THAT MOST OF THOSE LITTLE FOUR LETTER WORDS ARE ORIGINAL ANGLO-SAXON ENGLISH! They're the most ancient form of English, but the System became so Romanised that the language is almost totally Romanised, Latinised. They try to obliterate all those simple little four-letter words with a lot of great big words like intercourse and copulation.

6. NOW WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH A SIMPLE LITTLE FOUR-LETTER WORD LIKE FUCK, instead of having to use all these great big words! Just a good old-fashioned ancient Anglo Saxon word, original English!

7. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK UP THE ETYMOLOGY in any good size dictionary to find the origin of any word. Look up the etymology‚ in other words the history of these words. Those words are simply ancient Anglo Saxon words, much older than your modern English—which is mostly Romanised, which means Systematised!

8. AFTER ALL, WHAT GOOD IS ALL THAT TROUBLE YOU WENT TO, TO GET AN EDUCATION‚ IF YOU COULDN'T USE A LOT OF BIG WORDS that nobody could understand? Fuck is too easy a word to use! It's too short, too simple, everybody understands it!

9. YOU CAN'T HIDE THE MEANING FROM YOUR KIDS!—'Cause they see it written on the restroom walls. So you've got to use big words and fancy terminology, so you can hide all these things that you're ashamed of: like sex and intercourse and so on. You try to conceal it from your kids & make them think you're some kind of an angel that never did any such thing.

10. I'LL NEVER FORGET WHEN ONE OF OUR GIRL MUSICIANS, that used to travel with us, said the first time her mother explained to her about intercourse she was in her upper 18's. She sure was sheltered, reared in a holiness church! She said‚ "Do you mean to tell me that Reverend so and so does that to his wife? How horrible! I never could think the same of him again!"

11. TALK ABOUT BEING MENTALLY-CONDITIONED AGAINST SEX! Pavlovian-reflexed against the natural creation of God! The attitude of the System is horrible!—It's anti-sex!

12. BUT YOU SEE, THAT'S THE DEVIL'S BUSINESS! That's his job! That's what he has done to try to drag down the holy creation of God to the gutter, to make it an "evil filthy nasty dirty" thing!—So that he can get the credit for it instead of God!

13. I THINK THAT FREEDOM BRINGS LESS CONSCIOUSNESS OF THOSE THINGS and there is no reason to be ashamed! Now after Adam and Eve's sin against God, bringing about the Fall which was a terrible thing—they had every reason to be ashamed! Amen! But you and I, though salvation and the freedom of the Spirit, through the grace of God, have regained the liberty and the freedom of the Garden of Eden!

14. ONE OF THESE DAYS‚ IN THE MILLENNIUM, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THE GARDEN OF EDEN AGAIN! I know we're going to have spiritual bodies that can appear and disappear and travel with miraculous power. We'll have paradise regained!

15. IN THE MILLENNIUM, WE WILL HAVE SUPERNATURAL BODIES LIKE UNTO HIS GLORIOUS BODY! Praise God! That truly will be a glorification of the flesh! Oh, you say, but we're not going to have fleshly bodies in the Heavenly Kingdom. Well, when Jesus returned from His resurrection and rejoined the disciples in the upper room, they thought they were seeing a ghost.—But,

16. HE SAID, "TOUCH ME, FEEL ME. SEE THAT IT IS EVEN I MYSELF, not a spirit: for spirit hath not flesh and bone as ye see Me have." (Luke 24:39.) Think that over! He didn't say flesh and blood, "for flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God"—'cause "the life of the flesh is in the blood." (1Cor.15:50 & Lev.17:11.) But Jesus gave His blood! Praise God!

17. I'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF FUNNY DOCTRINES but you keep hearing more all the time that there would be absolutely no type of material life‚ material body in the Heaven of the Millennial Kingdom. That it'd all be some vapour—strictly spirit. Now at the present time, they may be strictly spirit or spiritual.

18. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF BODY THAT MY MOTHER HAD, OR DR. KOGER‚ when I saw him after he was gone to be with the Lord. But they looked just like they did before, except they just looked a little bit better—didn't look tired and sick and worn out. They looked like they were in the prime of life and enjoying it! Praise the Lord!

19. (Q: DID THEY LOOK YOUNGER?) No, he looked about the same. He was a very handsome, very healthy man. He didn't pass away until he was about 70, but he looked like he was about 50. Even in this life he looked pretty young.

20. I WOULD SAY MY MOTHER‚ WHEN I SAW HER, LOOKED LIKE SHE DID IN THE PRIME OF LIFE—not the old dried-up shell that she was, just before she passed away. She once again looked like a full-grown mature woman in the prime of life!

21. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS‚ I ONLY WAS THERE ONCE, AND I NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND! That was one launching that was unsuccessful, for which I'm thankful or you wouldn't be here! I told you about that (See No.679), but I can tell you one more story on the subject:

22. WHEN MY BEST BUDDY LAMONT HAAS, son of the Jewish man who used to be our campaign manager, was killed in returning from a bombing mission over Germany in World War II. He was Lieutenant-Commander of a squadron of 400. His body was found in France.

23. HOWEVER‚ WHEN IT WAS FIRST REPORTED, HE WAS ONLY REPORTED MISSING. One of his own planes had accidentally rammed the cabin of the plane in which he was sitting, with its wingtip. Planes flying at high altitudes like that have pressurised cabins that almost explode, and sometimes all the people go out with it!

24. FIVE OF THEM WERE BLOWN OUT THROUGH THE HOLE. Some of them parachuted to safety. Apparently he never got his chute open, or was killed somehow.

25. HE HAD GOTTEN BACK TO THE LORD JUST BEFORE HE HAD LEFT THE STATES, I figured the Lord took him when he was ready! He had gotten very worldly; altho' his parents were Christians! He was in our Tabernacle in Miami. A team from a Christian College came along & got him all inspired to want to go to a Christian College & serve the Lord—become a missionary.

26. I'M SORRY TO SAY‚ HIS FATHER WAS TOO BUSINESS-LIKE, and said, "You know, your grandfather was a doctor and I was supposed to be a doctor and I want you to be a doctor, to carry on with the family tradition. I'll tell you what‚ we'll send you away to a year of medical school, then if you still want to go to that Christian school, why, okay."

27. IF ANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT MEDICAL SCHOOL IS LIKE‚ it is one of the rottenest types of schools there is. Nothing is sacred! They experiment with everything—using drugs and hypnotism on the human body!

28. HE CAME BACK PRETTY HARD! Then along came World War II. He immediately volunteered for the Air Force‚ and worked his way up very rapidly. Popular fellow, very good looking‚ very smart. Eventually he got the rank of Major and head of his squadron.

29. THANK THE LORD, JUST BEFORE HE LEFT FOR THAT LAST TOUR OF DUTY I DEALT WITH HIM AT THE ALTAR IN MIAMI AND HE STRAIGHTENED THINGS OUT WITH THE LORD. He was already saved, but it's nice for people to go when they're in fellowship with the Lord and ready!—Not like we spoke of last night‚ when God just has to remove them because they're a lot of trouble!

30. WHEN IT WAS REPORTED THAT HE WAS MISSING, MY MOTHER HAPPENED TO BE VISITING HIS MOTHER. That night my mother had a dream! She woke up Sister Haas, and said, "Edna, I think the Lord has given me a dream to prepare you for some news that's coming." This is the middle of the night‚ now! She said,

31. "I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO NOTIFY YOU THAT LAMONT IS DEAD!" Edna burst into tears, and said‚ "Oh, no! It's impossible!" She woke up her husband, and said, "No, it never could happen. We claimed Psalm 91. It's impossible! It couldn't happen to him!" This was the same guy that said if our interpretation of Bible prophecy was true and the Church is going to have to go through the Tribulation, he was going to throw away his Bible!

32. SOME PEOPLE'S FAITH DEPENDS ON THEIR TRADITION RATHER THAN THE WORD OF GOD! Like a Jehovah's Witness said to me, "I don't care what the Bible says, I'll believe my teachers!"

33. MOM SAID‚ "WELL, LET ME TELL YOU THE DREAM: I saw a beautiful girl with long blonde hair coming down this long stately avenue of trees toward me. Trees of unearthly height—beautiful‚ just beautiful! The girl was beautiful! The scenery was beautiful! She was coming my direction down this roadway—like a country roadway, something beautiful, like you see in England or somewhere, with all those beautiful countryside scenes.

34. "LAMONT WAS ASCENDING THE ROADWAY TO GREET HER and they embraced. He called her Crystal, and said to her, 'But Crystal, why aren't you grieving like all the rest of them?' She smiled sweetly, and said, 'We see things differently up here!' Arm in arm they walked on up this beautiful roadway." Mrs. Haas wept again! She said to my mother‚ "I'll believe you if you'll answer me two questions: About how old was the girl‚ and was there anything peculiar about her physical build?"

35. THIS MAY DISAPPOINT SOME OF YOU! She said, "I would say she was in her late 20s and yes, I did notice something that was rather odd about her, now that I think about it: It seemed like she had no neck, her head just sat right on top of her shoulders!"

36. MRS. HAAS, ALMOST STUNNED‚ SAID, "YES, THAT HAD TO BE CRYSTAL!—Our first child‚ who died when she was 10 years of age, about 18 years ago. That was the peculiarity of one of the sides of the family: They have very short necks, the head set right between the shoulders; and that's the way Crystal was built."

37. NOW MY MOTHER HAD NEVER SEEN CRYSTAL, had never seen a picture of her! If she had, she would have been only 10 years of age and probably would not even have remembered her name. She'd been long dead and would not have been a subject of discussion.

38. BUT THERE SHE WAS SEEING HER AT ABOUT THE AGE SHE WOULD BE! "Beautiful girl," she said, "about in her late 20s."—And carried the same form she had had!

39. SORRY GIRLS, IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET SUCH A NEW BODY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ENTIRELY NEW SHAPE, IT MAY BE A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING! Now how could we recognise Cheryl (a girl present) if she wasn't shaped so nice & the way she is so comfortable?—Nice & generous! Praise the Lord!

40. WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY, my mother wanted to know why I always wanted to climb up on the lap of this one lady in church—big fat woman. I was about 3 or 4 and said‚ "She's so comfortable!" There's a comfort for you pleasingly plump girls. Remember what the man said, "I'd rather have 200 pounds of curves than 100 pounds of nerves!" So everything has its advantages! "In all things give thanks!" (1Thess.5:18.) Praise the Lord!

41. IT SURE IS FUNNY HOW THE LORD PICKS SUBJECTS I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT. We're on the body, the flesh, what's it going to be like. Is Cheryl going to be as beautiful in Heaven as she is now?—Even more so! She won't be ashamed of it then!

42. I DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO GO NAKED! You'll be clothed with robes of righteousness—like in all the pictures, in white robes of light! Praise God! But I'm sure they'll be artistically draped!

43. I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT I SAW ONE OF OUR GIRLS IN A HEAVENLY VISION. That gown she had on was like nothing earthly! It was gorgeous and it seemed to shimmer with light, as though it was made of light! But it concealed nothing of her beauty! It was like chiffon or something—nice and flowing and airy and beautiful & sheer & see-thru'!

44. MANY ARTISTS HAVE SAID THAT THE FEMALE FORM IS EVEN MORE BEAUTIFUL IF ARTISTICALLY DRAPED. I like it either way! Amen! You'd better like it!—That's the way God made it! He made it for you to like it!

45. "SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONE AS YOU SEE ME HAVE!" They recognised Jesus when they first saw Him. Now some false unorthodox groups have tried to bring out the fact that one time, on the road to Emmaus, the disciples didn't even recognise Jesus. But the Scripture specifically says, "their eyes were holden"—that God had deliberately blinded them to recognising Him. (Luke 24:16.)

46. IN HIS FIRST APPEARANCE TO THEM THEY INSTANTLY RECOGNISED HIM—only they thought it was His Spirit, in the upper room, remember? (Jn.20.)

47. ONLY ON THAT ROAD TO EMMAUS WERE THEY AT ANY TIME WITHOUT RECOGNITION. It says there in the end, when the Lord broke bread, their eyes having been holden, suddenly they recognised Him. They were opened, permitted to recognise Him!

48. IN THAT DISCUSSION‚ HE WAS DELIBERATELY CAMOUFLAGED BECAUSE HE WAS TESTING THEM. He was sounding them out and they flunked! What grade did they get? "O Fools, and slow of heart to believe!" Then He had to start giving them the answers. He began to expound to them how He had fulfilled all the prophecies of the prophets. That was the only occasion that they didn't recognise Him, that I recall. (Luke 24)

49. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT JESUS WAS SO DIFFERENT AFTER HIS RESURRECTION THAT THEY COULDN'T EVEN RECOGNISE HIM! In fact, He even still had the wound in His side and the nail prints in His hands!—How about that!

50. NOW WHETHER THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO BEAR THE SCARS OF BATTLE ON THE OTHER SIDE, I DON'T KNOW. Lindbergh had his daughter cremated and her ashes scattered over the Atlantic Ocean. But one of these days she's going to be resurrected just the same! God has to put back all the atoms in their proper places, think of that!

51. WHAT FORM, WHAT BODY THEY COME FORTH WITH, IS NOT CLEAR, Paul granted that it was too wonderful to clearly understand. But one thing we know, "when He appears we shall be like Him!" (1Jn.3:2.) We shall have a body "like unto His glorious body!" (Phil.3:21.) Praise the Lord! It'll be so much more wonderful and so much more powerful and enduring and eternal, without the afflictions of the present flesh‚ without it's dread diseases—the worst of all of which is sin!

52. THE FLESH OF THE FUTURE, THE SUPERNATURAL, MIRACULOUS, RESURRECTED, TRANSFORMED FLESHLY BODIES OF THE FUTURE ARE GOING TO BE LIKE THE ANGELS OF GOD! Another shocker on that subject: Since those bodies are like the angels of God, you'll find out in the Book of Genesis, they had intercourse with the daughters of men!—And the result was giants, giants in the land! There's sex in Heaven!